075 |Relationship and the Power of Listening

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SS075 Shepherd & The Shrink Relationship and the Power in Listening

As we head into our third year on the podcast, we focus in this episode on the power of listening, asking the question: what does it really mean to win an argument?

Today, we talk about how to listen well. We note that there’s a shortage of good listeners today and talk about the meaning and relevance of epistemology. We discuss the power of role models and talk about what it means to be a good listener. We note that religion is not an opiate; constant noise is, because it lulls us into living without really listening to ourselves or others. We also share the best question to ask to tune into how someone is really doing.


“You can’t understand anything or anyone until you’re willing to stop talking.”

- Dr. Matt Hook


“When someone disagrees with you, they are not attacking your existence.”

- Dr. Marty Fletcher


This week on Shepherd & the Shrink:

  • The meaning of epistemology

  • The power of role models

  • Being a good listener

  • Why people are generally doing the best that the can

  • Constant noise as the opiate of the masses

  • The best question to ask to tune in to how someone’s doing

Resources mentioned


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